Exista muzica satanista?
eu nu cred.
poate versurile sunt sataniste, sau pot fi considerate asa, dar versurile nu inseamna muzica.
cat despre grohaituri...
incercati sa sapati mai adanc in muzica, sa ascultati si altceva in afara de voce.
Muzica satanista?! exista asa ceva?
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O fi ma, cum e si muzica religioasa ortodoxa sau baha'i sau stiu io ce..... Or avea si ei cor de cinta in strana.... Asta ar insemna muzica satanista.
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Sigur ca exista muzica satanista adevarata - si chiar in Romania.
vezi: http://www.sfantatreime.go.ro
vezi: http://www.sfantatreime.go.ro
- Aghiutza
domnu' ... aghiuta hai sa fim seriosi. si eu pot sa-mi fac maine formatie si pot sa zic ca [,] cant rock budist (religie nu wc).
ce canta domnii de la 'sfanta treime' probabil ca e gotic, heavy, etc. (ma enerveaza home.ro ca-i prea lent si n-am dloadat nimic) doar atitudinea domniilor lor fiind 'satanista'.
e o teorie mai lunga dar...mi-e lene. daca suna bine poa' sa cante si rock musulman ca nu ma deranjaza.
ce canta domnii de la 'sfanta treime' probabil ca e gotic, heavy, etc. (ma enerveaza home.ro ca-i prea lent si n-am dloadat nimic) doar atitudinea domniilor lor fiind 'satanista'.
e o teorie mai lunga dar...mi-e lene. daca suna bine poa' sa cante si rock musulman ca nu ma deranjaza.
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tre - Junior Member
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Thread-ul asta o fi avand legatura cu ce-am zis eu pe muzica rock?
Eu nu stiu ce sa zic despre muzica satanista. Nu stiu nici eu daca sa cred sau sa nu cred ....
Eu nu stiu ce sa zic despre muzica satanista. Nu stiu nici eu daca sa cred sau sa nu cred ....
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dEpEchEmIND - Junior Member
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Exista! Ba sunt si albume! Ba sunt chiar si trupe! Ba au chiar si concerte! ba au chiar si in Romania prin gauri negre ce bubuie de fum, miros de "Saniutza" si prosti! Ma rezum la atat.
......noapte buna si pofta buna la masa...de Demostene Botez
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Re: Muzica satanista?! exista asa ceva?
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Exista muzica satanista?
eu nu cred.
poate versurile sunt sataniste, sau pot fi considerate asa, dar versurile nu inseamna muzica.
cat despre grohaituri...
incercati sa sapati mai adanc in muzica, sa ascultati si altceva in afara de voce.
Mai baiete, atata timp cat versurile sunt foarte importante pentru cei care le-au compus... Cum zicea cineva mai sus, exista muzica satanista asa cum exista muzica religioasa; e ca si cum ai zice ca nu exista muzica religioasa/bisericeasca. Atata timp cat muzica e impregnata de mesaj...
In plus, alde Morbid Angel ce canta? Stilistic e death metal (era ultima oara cand i-am ascultat, prin '95), dar cred ca si ei considera ca fac muzica satanista, asa ca...
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If it doesn't it's because you're dumb"
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da stefanp ai dreptate dar uite, daca morbid angel poate fi incadrat in death metal, muzica religioasa nu prea poti s-o incadrezi undeva. e muzica religioasa si gata, suna diferit de orice altceva, pe cand rock-ul 'satanic' poate fi death, metal, etc., nu are trasaturi melodice specifice.
sigur ca si mesajul are importanta dar: eu daca ascult morbid angel, ascult pt ca-mi place cu suna, atat versurile cat si muzica, si eu zic ca ascult death metal. unul care, satanist fiind, asculta morbid angel zice ca asculta muzica satanica.
treaba asta e subiectiva, ca principiu nu exista rock satanist, dar daca acea piesa are versuri sataniste atunci ramane la latitudinea ascultatorului cum considera acea piesa.
sigur ca si mesajul are importanta dar: eu daca ascult morbid angel, ascult pt ca-mi place cu suna, atat versurile cat si muzica, si eu zic ca ascult death metal. unul care, satanist fiind, asculta morbid angel zice ca asculta muzica satanica.
treaba asta e subiectiva, ca principiu nu exista rock satanist, dar daca acea piesa are versuri sataniste atunci ramane la latitudinea ascultatorului cum considera acea piesa.
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tre - Junior Member
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f multe dintre trupele care canta metale extreme au versuri anti-crestine,vin cu propaganda anti-religioasa si asa mai departe dar nu toti cei care canta acest gen de muzica cred cu adevarat in ceea ce scriu ci o fac de cele mai multe ori pt a avea succes pt a fi mai deosebiti,violenta prinde la tineret
Dar pe langa asta mai sunt si oameni care chiar cred in ceea ce fac,in versurile lor si care se declara satanisti convinsi,de exemplu tipul ala de la mayhem care a fost omorat de burzum(varg),din cate stiu devenise obsedat de satanism si vroia sa creeze un grup satanist cu care sa incendieze mai multe biserici din norvegia ,se pare ca le-a reusit faza cat de cat ,a fost o perioada f zbuciumata in istoria metalului extrem din norvegia.
Acum artistul de muzica extrema burzum se afla dupa gratii pt omor,si pt incendiere de biserici...
cititi acest articol:
"No one really cared about the extreme music scene in Norway until 1993, when all hell broke loose - litterally!
Churches were burned and murders were committed. Emperor's dummer, Faust, was charged with killing a homosexual man who was foolish enough to make advances towards him; and the man who is Buruzm, COUNT GRISHNACKH, was charged with killing Mayhem guitarist Euronymous. Others within the scene went down for arson. In 1995 the rivalry between bands anxious for notoriety has subsided, as the most activists lay behind bars. In an exclusive interview, Robyn Doreian travels to Norway to talk to convicted murderer Grishnackh about how he is dealing with the reality of prison life, about Burzum's fifth album, and the future of his one-man musical project."
cateva fragmente dintr-un interviu cu Varg(burzum)
"The point is that he started with black metal in 1984. He was always considered the king as such in Norway, but when we started to socialise with them in '91 everything changed.
The scene had a boost. My debut came out in March '92, and then Immortal came in September, and at the same time churches started to burn. None of these things happened before we came into the scene. Every time a church would burn he would phone around to all of his friends and tell them we had burnt another church, as he really wanted to be part of this church-burning thing.
We got a bit tired of him, and he was into this satanism and evil and all of this, and for a while we called ourselves Satanists. We were never really Satanists, so why call ourselves that? He didn't want that, because he wanted to be evil and all this bullshit, and we didn't, so it sort of became a disagreement."
What did it feel like when you killed him?
"Nothing special, really. It was no big deal."
Were you horrified that you had actually killed him?
"Why should l? It is natural to kill, especially when you are threatened. I think it is quite normal. This thing about killing has caused such hysteria."
Were your parents horrified when they heard you had committed murder?
"Not really. The reactions my mother got from her friends was that I should be rewarded for killing that pig! She didn't like him at all."
Was there really an 'inner circle' operating in the scene, performing acts of terrorism, satanic rituals and rapes?
"That was just another dream of Euronymous. He wanted there to be an inner black circle, and we played along for a while. But he was damn serious. The only person seriously into this satanism thing was him. Nobody else wanted anything to do with it, so his fantasy picture was falling apart and he was blaming me.
There were no ritual rapes.
deci cred ca este destul de convingator postul meu :exista si muzicieni care se considera satanisti.cat despre muzica cred ca se poate numi muzica satanica muzica ale carei versuri cocheteaza cu satanismul si care sunt scrise din convingere....
Dar pe langa asta mai sunt si oameni care chiar cred in ceea ce fac,in versurile lor si care se declara satanisti convinsi,de exemplu tipul ala de la mayhem care a fost omorat de burzum(varg),din cate stiu devenise obsedat de satanism si vroia sa creeze un grup satanist cu care sa incendieze mai multe biserici din norvegia ,se pare ca le-a reusit faza cat de cat ,a fost o perioada f zbuciumata in istoria metalului extrem din norvegia.
Acum artistul de muzica extrema burzum se afla dupa gratii pt omor,si pt incendiere de biserici...
cititi acest articol:
"No one really cared about the extreme music scene in Norway until 1993, when all hell broke loose - litterally!
Churches were burned and murders were committed. Emperor's dummer, Faust, was charged with killing a homosexual man who was foolish enough to make advances towards him; and the man who is Buruzm, COUNT GRISHNACKH, was charged with killing Mayhem guitarist Euronymous. Others within the scene went down for arson. In 1995 the rivalry between bands anxious for notoriety has subsided, as the most activists lay behind bars. In an exclusive interview, Robyn Doreian travels to Norway to talk to convicted murderer Grishnackh about how he is dealing with the reality of prison life, about Burzum's fifth album, and the future of his one-man musical project."
cateva fragmente dintr-un interviu cu Varg(burzum)
"The point is that he started with black metal in 1984. He was always considered the king as such in Norway, but when we started to socialise with them in '91 everything changed.
The scene had a boost. My debut came out in March '92, and then Immortal came in September, and at the same time churches started to burn. None of these things happened before we came into the scene. Every time a church would burn he would phone around to all of his friends and tell them we had burnt another church, as he really wanted to be part of this church-burning thing.
We got a bit tired of him, and he was into this satanism and evil and all of this, and for a while we called ourselves Satanists. We were never really Satanists, so why call ourselves that? He didn't want that, because he wanted to be evil and all this bullshit, and we didn't, so it sort of became a disagreement."
What did it feel like when you killed him?
"Nothing special, really. It was no big deal."
Were you horrified that you had actually killed him?
"Why should l? It is natural to kill, especially when you are threatened. I think it is quite normal. This thing about killing has caused such hysteria."
Were your parents horrified when they heard you had committed murder?
"Not really. The reactions my mother got from her friends was that I should be rewarded for killing that pig! She didn't like him at all."
Was there really an 'inner circle' operating in the scene, performing acts of terrorism, satanic rituals and rapes?
"That was just another dream of Euronymous. He wanted there to be an inner black circle, and we played along for a while. But he was damn serious. The only person seriously into this satanism thing was him. Nobody else wanted anything to do with it, so his fantasy picture was falling apart and he was blaming me.
There were no ritual rapes.
deci cred ca este destul de convingator postul meu :exista si muzicieni care se considera satanisti.cat despre muzica cred ca se poate numi muzica satanica muzica ale carei versuri cocheteaza cu satanismul si care sunt scrise din convingere....
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Re: Muzica satanista?! exista asa ceva?
Exista muzica satanista, dar mai intai trebuie inteles contextul din care ea provine. Ma voi referi aici strict la melodiile create de satanisti practicanti sau in colaborare cu ei si nu la formatiile care adopta o anumita imagine doar pentru popularitate (Vezi Slayer).
Mai intai trebuie sa intelegem ca nu exista o autoritate satanica, nu exista un unic templu, o unica biserica. Daca ar exista asa ceva, ar fi in contradictie cu insasi principiile satanismului. De aceea exista multe culte, ordine, grupuri sataniste, fiecare promovandu-si propriile idei in diverse feluri. Unele din ele nici nu se considera sataniste, dar aici folosesc termenul pentru a denumi toate acele culte, sisteme si traditii din cadrul caii mainii stangi, deoarece cred ca Satanismul este chintesenta Caii Mainii Stangi. Pentru cei interesati, am scris un site despre satanism si calea mainii stangi: www.flacaraneagra.ro
Revenind, la discutie, voi posta cateva melodii sataniste.
Formatii sustinute de Temple of the Black Light: Dissection si Watain
Dissection - Reinkaos (vezi si God of Forbidden Light)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD3kNc1gzv0
Clipuri postate de membri/sustinatori ai Order of Nine Angles:
Self Immolation Rite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m61Vkk0F ... re=related
Sappho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdAVliim ... re=related
Dark Imperium - Agios O Baphomet (vezi si Agios o Lucifer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW4V_CEHw6A
Daemonarch - Nine Angles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noLhRqOS70s
Atrium Carceri-Binan Ath
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1B2W_VDYbs
Formatie sustinuta de Dragon Rouge: Therion
Therion - Sitra Ahra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShGZGjzlzT4
Coven - Coven in Charing Cross (vezi si Black Mass, tot de la ei)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm3v1-PK ... re=related
Lapis Niger - Black Serpent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I567Hpkjhik
Si in incheiere, o scurta incantatie pentru fortificarea si inaltarea Flacarii Negre:
Nirang-IAharman Adar Sama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv8PW56TLww
Mai intai trebuie sa intelegem ca nu exista o autoritate satanica, nu exista un unic templu, o unica biserica. Daca ar exista asa ceva, ar fi in contradictie cu insasi principiile satanismului. De aceea exista multe culte, ordine, grupuri sataniste, fiecare promovandu-si propriile idei in diverse feluri. Unele din ele nici nu se considera sataniste, dar aici folosesc termenul pentru a denumi toate acele culte, sisteme si traditii din cadrul caii mainii stangi, deoarece cred ca Satanismul este chintesenta Caii Mainii Stangi. Pentru cei interesati, am scris un site despre satanism si calea mainii stangi: www.flacaraneagra.ro
Revenind, la discutie, voi posta cateva melodii sataniste.
Formatii sustinute de Temple of the Black Light: Dissection si Watain
Dissection - Reinkaos (vezi si God of Forbidden Light)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD3kNc1gzv0
Clipuri postate de membri/sustinatori ai Order of Nine Angles:
Self Immolation Rite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m61Vkk0F ... re=related
Sappho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdAVliim ... re=related
Dark Imperium - Agios O Baphomet (vezi si Agios o Lucifer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW4V_CEHw6A
Daemonarch - Nine Angles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noLhRqOS70s
Atrium Carceri-Binan Ath
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1B2W_VDYbs
Formatie sustinuta de Dragon Rouge: Therion
Therion - Sitra Ahra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShGZGjzlzT4
Coven - Coven in Charing Cross (vezi si Black Mass, tot de la ei)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm3v1-PK ... re=related
Lapis Niger - Black Serpent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I567Hpkjhik
Si in incheiere, o scurta incantatie pentru fortificarea si inaltarea Flacarii Negre:
Nirang-IAharman Adar Sama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv8PW56TLww
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Flacara9Neagra - Junior Member
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Re: Muzica satanista?! exista asa ceva?
PS: Aici puteti gasi mai multe cantece ritualice de la ONA
http://www.4shared.com/file/wDGMYxJ4/ONA_-_Chants.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/wDGMYxJ4/ONA_-_Chants.html
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