Zilele trecute navigam la intamplare pe net si am dat peste categoria "melodii copiate" a site-ului MuzicaBuna.ro. Acolo, am vazut o lista cu piesele pe care PARAZITII le-au copiat de-a lungul timpului (e vorba mai mult de negative ce-i drept...). A fost o surpriza pt. mine ca tocmai o trupa care promova cantatul pe bune si muzica originala sa recurga la asa ceva... Toate trupele se mai "inspira" de la cei de-afara, dar nu cred ca asta e o scuza pt. a copia aproape in intregime negativele altor piese...
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de Asassinu » Mar Aug 24, 2004 9:54 pm
Sa stii ca uneori se mai intampla sa si semene fara sa fie copie. Dar oricum, de undeva tot sunt luate sample-urile....Si nu cred k parazitii au copiat ceva in intregime.
Ajutor, ajutor, a luat foc ceva?/Nu, mami, mi-am aprins tigara!
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de Neddy » Joi Aug 26, 2004 10:12 am
bai uNkNowNoNe se vede ca asculti Hi-Hop de 2-3 zile
daca negativele se aseamana asta nu inseamna ca sunt furate
se numesc sampling-uri
Hip-Hop inseamna 50% sampling 50% creatie, asta pentru cine stie ce zic
stai linisti ca si mafia au o gramada de sampling-uri luate de la N.W.A si EAZY-E
si La familia au o gramada de sampling-uri luate de la 2Pac
Si pe proiectu' verde sunt o gramada de sampling-uri luate de la Ice cube si altii
Pana si Getto Dacii pe albumul Marea Scofala au o gramada de sampling-uri luate din afara
asta nu inseamna ca se fura
asta-i Hip-Hop-ul
aaaaa si ombladon are pe ultimul album cateva sampling-uri luate
si ce e cel mai important e ca are pe melodia cu DOX "cand va umplem de flegme" vocea lui tupac de pe melodia "Smile" cand zice el "intrerup iar piesa pentru ca-mi vine sa ma pish"si la itreruperea aia asculta-ti atenti si o sa auziti vocea lu tupac
binenteles ca asta nu inseamna ca a copiat
toata lumea face asa
in afara se folosesc la greu sampling-urile
asha ca draga uNkNowNoNe se vede ca U don't know shit about Hip-Hop
daca negativele se aseamana asta nu inseamna ca sunt furate
se numesc sampling-uri
Hip-Hop inseamna 50% sampling 50% creatie, asta pentru cine stie ce zic
stai linisti ca si mafia au o gramada de sampling-uri luate de la N.W.A si EAZY-E
si La familia au o gramada de sampling-uri luate de la 2Pac
Si pe proiectu' verde sunt o gramada de sampling-uri luate de la Ice cube si altii
Pana si Getto Dacii pe albumul Marea Scofala au o gramada de sampling-uri luate din afara
asta nu inseamna ca se fura
asta-i Hip-Hop-ul
aaaaa si ombladon are pe ultimul album cateva sampling-uri luate
si ce e cel mai important e ca are pe melodia cu DOX "cand va umplem de flegme" vocea lui tupac de pe melodia "Smile" cand zice el "intrerup iar piesa pentru ca-mi vine sa ma pish"si la itreruperea aia asculta-ti atenti si o sa auziti vocea lu tupac
binenteles ca asta nu inseamna ca a copiat
toata lumea face asa
in afara se folosesc la greu sampling-urile
asha ca draga uNkNowNoNe se vede ca U don't know shit about Hip-Hop
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de rap_t_one » Sâm Aug 28, 2004 4:32 pm
Eu nam ce sati adresez UnKnownule ... Tiau adresat toti ce vroiam eu sati adresez ! Dak ash mai zice ... cine shtie ... ma cuzi de plagiat dracu 
) :B 
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Aha ! da si ka aku imi veni in minte : dak nici aia de e samplata de la dre nu ai recunoscut-o cand ai scultat parazitii degeneratia ... imi dau seama ce de muzici ai bagat in tine ! treia sa navighezi , sa mai piratezi doua trei melodii , si apoi sa strigi in gura mare : "PARAZITII FURA !!! " ! Si aia de au pus melodiile acolo sunt tot ka tine ... de ,tre sa ne scarpinam in cur , nu ?
In poola mea ... ka dadui edit la postu asta de zece mii d eori ! Si aia a lu pacha man ! Pe coperta albumului scrie mare : Piesa acelasi sange , este o prelucrare dupa one blood !
Siteul ala e unul descandal ? Eu asha lash considera ! Shi plus de asta ... oamenii spun ... Iar ... sunt curios Dalida -Darla dida ... de cati ani e melodia aia ? dak trece de 20 de ani intra in patrimoniul internarional ! Nu mai se cer drepturi d eautor ! Iris ... judas priest ... imi vine sa vars ma !! Pai cum canta Iris pe ansamblu si Judas priest , mah ? Fitzar siteu al dracu ! Pupaiai intre bile pe toti mancatorii aia dakolo , de le multumesc moderatorii si administratorii ! Sai frec Pe dinti cu bormasina ! Toti cunosc muzica ! ;B
Nam nimik frate da gandeste cand zici ceva !
QUOTE DE PE MUZICA BUNa.CUR! : "Va prezentam mai jos cateva melodii care ni se pare ca seamana foarte mult cu altele mai vechi (si mai bune), fie din punct de vedere al instrumentatiei, fie al refrenului, strofelor, etc.
Aceasta nu inseamna in mod necesar ca sunt copiate. Ascultati-le si decideti voi!
Nota: Asa zisele cover-uri sau prelucrari sunt tot melodii copiate. Faptul ca cei care incearca sa le cante recunosc acest lucru, nu le face mai putin copiate! (si NU, nu sunt o noua viziune asupra piesei). Nu exista nici o scuza pentru lipsa de inspiratie."
) :B !
Aha ! da si ka aku imi veni in minte : dak nici aia de e samplata de la dre nu ai recunoscut-o cand ai scultat parazitii degeneratia ... imi dau seama ce de muzici ai bagat in tine ! treia sa navighezi , sa mai piratezi doua trei melodii , si apoi sa strigi in gura mare : "PARAZITII FURA !!! " ! Si aia de au pus melodiile acolo sunt tot ka tine ... de ,tre sa ne scarpinam in cur , nu ?
In poola mea ... ka dadui edit la postu asta de zece mii d eori ! Si aia a lu pacha man ! Pe coperta albumului scrie mare : Piesa acelasi sange , este o prelucrare dupa one blood !
Siteul ala e unul descandal ? Eu asha lash considera ! Shi plus de asta ... oamenii spun ... Iar ... sunt curios Dalida -Darla dida ... de cati ani e melodia aia ? dak trece de 20 de ani intra in patrimoniul internarional ! Nu mai se cer drepturi d eautor ! Iris ... judas priest ... imi vine sa vars ma !! Pai cum canta Iris pe ansamblu si Judas priest , mah ? Fitzar siteu al dracu ! Pupaiai intre bile pe toti mancatorii aia dakolo , de le multumesc moderatorii si administratorii ! Sai frec Pe dinti cu bormasina ! Toti cunosc muzica ! ;B
Nam nimik frate da gandeste cand zici ceva !
QUOTE DE PE MUZICA BUNa.CUR! : "Va prezentam mai jos cateva melodii care ni se pare ca seamana foarte mult cu altele mai vechi (si mai bune), fie din punct de vedere al instrumentatiei, fie al refrenului, strofelor, etc.
Aceasta nu inseamna in mod necesar ca sunt copiate. Ascultati-le si decideti voi!
Nota: Asa zisele cover-uri sau prelucrari sunt tot melodii copiate. Faptul ca cei care incearca sa le cante recunosc acest lucru, nu le face mai putin copiate! (si NU, nu sunt o noua viziune asupra piesei). Nu exista nici o scuza pentru lipsa de inspiratie."
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de Asassinu » Mar Aug 31, 2004 5:51 pm
Daca ar fi sa fie acuzati pt orice sample luat de undeva(care oricum e declarat) ar fi de kkt.
Cum ar fi sa fie acuzati Ghetto Daci pt asa ceva la piesa Pe Aici nu se trece? Cine i-ar acuza? Cypress Hill(Let's get high) sau Dusty Springfield(Son of a Preacher man) de la care a pornit prima data cest sound?:D
peace
Cum ar fi sa fie acuzati Ghetto Daci pt asa ceva la piesa Pe Aici nu se trece? Cine i-ar acuza? Cypress Hill(Let's get high) sau Dusty Springfield(Son of a Preacher man) de la care a pornit prima data cest sound?:D
peace
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de Dorinescu » Joi Sep 02, 2004 3:10 pm
daca toata lumea scotea numa melodii ..va dati seama ce se intampla ? normal toata lumea plagiaza...inclusiv voi..care ii mai citatati din cand in cand..fara sa aveti ceva concret in cap.sunteti cam varza...fiti originali si unici...
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semn de exclamare!
de sadox » Vin Sep 03, 2004 1:04 pm
Nici ca se putea mai bine argumenta Dorinescule:).Bine spus,bine gandit!Macar de-ar lua cineva in seamah treabah asta cu plagiatuh!.I have nimik to say.
Singur cu mine
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de LoveVerde » Vin Sep 03, 2004 11:53 pm
ma apuca rasu cand vad ce incuiati sunt unii .... critica dar habar nu au despre ce vorbesc. sincer ... mi-e mila
mai luati reviste, ascultati albume, internet, documentati-va!
ma scuzati ca am vorbit la plural dar acum imi e lene sa mai modific! postu asta ii suna incultului care a deschis thread-ul !
:bye:
mai luati reviste, ascultati albume, internet, documentati-va!
ma scuzati ca am vorbit la plural dar acum imi e lene sa mai modific! postu asta ii suna incultului care a deschis thread-ul !
:bye:
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de Lärägë » Lun Sep 06, 2004 3:26 am
sampling LMAO, multi au auzit de el dar putini au inteles.sa iei cu japca o bucata de negativ nu poate fi numit sampling scuze :M si in plus ca sa poti folosi sample-uri legal trebuie sa platesti drepturile de autor in caz contrar e ciordeala pura :N
Sampling is the use of portions of prior recordings which are incorporated into a new composition. Sampling has become an integral part of many genres of music today. When you sample someone's song without permission, it is an instant copyright violation. It is the unauthorized use of copyrighted material owned by another. Sampling without permission violates two copyrights-the sound recording copyright (usually owned by the record company) and the copyright in the song itself (usually owned by the songwriter or the publishing company).
If you want to use a sample legally, you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. The copyright owner is usually a publishing company or record label. Remember that you must obtain permission from both the owner of the sound recording and the copyright owner of the underlying musical work. The fee for a license to use a sample can vary tremendously. The fee will depend on how much of the sample you intend to use (a quarter second is a minor use; five seconds, a major use), the music you intend to sample (a Madonna chorus will cost more than an obscure drum beat), and the intended use of the sample in your song (it is more costly to build your entire song around the sample than to give it only minor attention).
There are two different ways to pay for a license. First, you can pay a flat fee for the usage. A buy-out fee can range from $250 to $10,000 on a major label. Most fees fall between $1,000 and $2,000. The other way to pay for the license is a percentage of the mechanical royalty rate. The mechanical royalty rate is the amount a person pays to the copyright owner to make a mechanical reproduction (copy) of the song. A license which is a percentage of the mechanical royalty rate is generally between ½ ¢ and 3¢ per record pressed. Everything is negotiable and it is not unusual to get a license for free, if you ask.
If all of this sounds confusing, there's hope. There are businesses devoted entirely to securing and negotiating clearances for samples. These firms charge less than an entertainment attorney would charge and are generally more knowledgeable about the going rates for uses.
If you use samples without obtaining the proper clearance licenses, you have to be aware of the penalties. A copyright infringer is liable for "statutory damages" that generally run from $500 to $20,000 for a single act of copyright infringement. If the court determines there has been wilful infringement, damages can run as high as $100,000. The copyright owner can also get a court to issue an injunction forcing you to cease violating the copyright owner's rights. The court can also force you to recall all your albums and destroy them.
There is also a rumor going around that you can use four notes of any song under the "fair use" doctrine. There is no "four note" rule in the copyright law. One note from a sound recording is a copyright violation. Saturday Night Live was sued for using the jingle, "I Love New York" which is only four notes. The test for infringement is whether the sample is "substantially similar" to the original. Remember, a judge or jury is the one who determines this and these people may be much less receptive to your music than your fans. My point is you cannot rely on fair use as a defense.
Sampling can also have tremendous consequences if you have a record contract. Most record contracts have provisions called "Warranties", "Indemnifications" and "Representations". These provisions constitute a promise that you created all the music on your album and an agreement to reimburse the label if it is sued. These same provisions are included in all contracts throughout the entertainment distribution chain. The record company has them with the artist, the distributors with the record company, the record stores with the distributors, and so on. Well, all these warranties point back at the artist who is responsible to everyone else! Therefore, if you violate someone else's copyright, you will be paying all the bills of your record company, distributor and any stores which incur expenses as a result of your infringement. This can run into serious money as you can imagine. You will also be in breach of your record contract. Read your record contract carefully before using any samples.
Sampling is the use of portions of prior recordings which are incorporated into a new composition. Sampling has become an integral part of many genres of music today. When you sample someone's song without permission, it is an instant copyright violation. It is the unauthorized use of copyrighted material owned by another. Sampling without permission violates two copyrights-the sound recording copyright (usually owned by the record company) and the copyright in the song itself (usually owned by the songwriter or the publishing company).
If you want to use a sample legally, you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. The copyright owner is usually a publishing company or record label. Remember that you must obtain permission from both the owner of the sound recording and the copyright owner of the underlying musical work. The fee for a license to use a sample can vary tremendously. The fee will depend on how much of the sample you intend to use (a quarter second is a minor use; five seconds, a major use), the music you intend to sample (a Madonna chorus will cost more than an obscure drum beat), and the intended use of the sample in your song (it is more costly to build your entire song around the sample than to give it only minor attention).
There are two different ways to pay for a license. First, you can pay a flat fee for the usage. A buy-out fee can range from $250 to $10,000 on a major label. Most fees fall between $1,000 and $2,000. The other way to pay for the license is a percentage of the mechanical royalty rate. The mechanical royalty rate is the amount a person pays to the copyright owner to make a mechanical reproduction (copy) of the song. A license which is a percentage of the mechanical royalty rate is generally between ½ ¢ and 3¢ per record pressed. Everything is negotiable and it is not unusual to get a license for free, if you ask.
If all of this sounds confusing, there's hope. There are businesses devoted entirely to securing and negotiating clearances for samples. These firms charge less than an entertainment attorney would charge and are generally more knowledgeable about the going rates for uses.
If you use samples without obtaining the proper clearance licenses, you have to be aware of the penalties. A copyright infringer is liable for "statutory damages" that generally run from $500 to $20,000 for a single act of copyright infringement. If the court determines there has been wilful infringement, damages can run as high as $100,000. The copyright owner can also get a court to issue an injunction forcing you to cease violating the copyright owner's rights. The court can also force you to recall all your albums and destroy them.
There is also a rumor going around that you can use four notes of any song under the "fair use" doctrine. There is no "four note" rule in the copyright law. One note from a sound recording is a copyright violation. Saturday Night Live was sued for using the jingle, "I Love New York" which is only four notes. The test for infringement is whether the sample is "substantially similar" to the original. Remember, a judge or jury is the one who determines this and these people may be much less receptive to your music than your fans. My point is you cannot rely on fair use as a defense.
Sampling can also have tremendous consequences if you have a record contract. Most record contracts have provisions called "Warranties", "Indemnifications" and "Representations". These provisions constitute a promise that you created all the music on your album and an agreement to reimburse the label if it is sued. These same provisions are included in all contracts throughout the entertainment distribution chain. The record company has them with the artist, the distributors with the record company, the record stores with the distributors, and so on. Well, all these warranties point back at the artist who is responsible to everyone else! Therefore, if you violate someone else's copyright, you will be paying all the bills of your record company, distributor and any stores which incur expenses as a result of your infringement. This can run into serious money as you can imagine. You will also be in breach of your record contract. Read your record contract carefully before using any samples.
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de uNkNowNoNe » Mie Sep 08, 2004 7:09 pm
Bine ca ai lamurit lucrurile, Lí¤rí¤gí«. Eu nu am acuzat pe nimeni, doar am atras atentia asupra acestei practici foarte uzitata la noi a carei legalitate este indoielnica... Oricum, sunt de acord cu afirmatia site-ului MuzicaBuna.ro:
Se pare ca nimeni nu a inteles scopul threadului asta...
Nu exista nici o scuza pentru lipsa de inspiratie...
Se pare ca nimeni nu a inteles scopul threadului asta...
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de Lärägë » Vin Sep 10, 2004 7:47 pm
tu esti normal? lol, cica daca "i s-a pus pata"
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de AdevaRapper » Dum Sep 12, 2004 5:51 pm
MC_DIO...tzie daca ti se pune pata pe ceva ce vezi in magazin, iei cu tine acasa obiectul?
Daca ramanem aici, aici ramanem!!!
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de Subsemnata` » Lun Sep 13, 2004 3:30 pm
Si dak muzica parazitii ar fi plagiat ce?dak va deranjeaza atat de mult lucrul asta nu mai o ascultati si nu mai le cumparati albumele!
Te invit la dans..il stii pe tot? sau trecem la capitolul:faci bot?
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de omu_dn_lift_bah » Vin Iun 30, 2006 9:30 pm
si totusi..am si yo o intrebare..si cu rasps..dak se poate..privat id d mess..cum vreti....bah... Bitch Please(snoop) cu ce mel de la parazitii seamana ,???????..dci imi tot ft creierii si nu imi dau seeeeeeama CU CE MELL?:(((( tot pe site u` ala..am vaz si yo..da faza e k, RATATILOR , NU DEGENERATIA URMATOARE E MELODIA..alta e...da nuj kre ...careeee eeeeeeee:(((((((((((( valy_2m add dak jtiti..PLS PLS PLS
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Parazitii, aparentele inseala?
de rreal shit » Lun Sep 11, 2006 7:19 pm
Ne-am adunat toti sa laudam cea mai buna trupa de hip hop din tara. Asa o fi, dar toate negativele furate de Parazitii ma fac sa ma mai gandesc la chestia cu ''cei mai tari''.
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de Parazitoo » Mar Sep 12, 2006 5:52 pm
Draga Habeeb, ca sa iti dau numai un mic si recent exemplu, ca nu am timp de pierdut facand pe avocatul acuzarii in cazul Parazitii, asculta cacatul ala de piesa de la Anonim inca o data (Extrema zilei) si ''Imagine That'' by L.L. Cool J. Si cum ne-a zis si cheloo : ''...nu exista idoli, lasati muzica sa vorbeasca''. Si a vorbit. Peace out!
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de Parazitoo » Mie Sep 13, 2006 6:26 pm
HABEEB scrie:nu exista avocatul acuzarii.. se numeste procuror... cum am zis eu.. "lasati dexul sa vorbeasca"
''Nu exista avocatul acuzarii'', ain't ya a allknowing biatch? In cauzele civile, partile implicate se numesc de obicei acuzarea si apararea. Procurorul este reprezentantul statului intr-un proces in care unul din subiecti este statul. Deci in cauzele civile, cel ce reprezinta acuzarea se numeste......??
Phaaaf!! Si mi se pare ca inca nu ai apucat sa asculti Imagine that?
Peace!
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de rreal shit » Joi Sep 14, 2006 5:45 pm
HABEEB scrie:rreal shit data viitoare foloseste search.. si daca tot deschizi un thread de kkt macar adu si ceva argumente...
Bai sclavul pulii, ca doar asta esti, nu? (sclav sexual), te deranjeaza ca ma iau de baietii de la parazitii si de aceea threadul e de kkt? samples, mixuri, cacaturi, ''imprumuturi'' tot furt se cheama.
''...o trupa de cacat intr-o tara de cacat, deci, nu v-am facut de ras''
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de rreal shit » Joi Sep 14, 2006 5:46 pm
Parazitoo scrie:Si tu, bai rreal shit eshti shit pe bune, sau cum?
da,in poola mea sunt pe bune. da' tu?
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de rreal shit » Sâm Sep 16, 2006 7:18 pm
RajaF scrie:Ce se mai ambaleaza copii lui minune pe threadul asta...
gramatica poolii
tastatura ta stie mai multa gramatica decat tine
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de RajaF » Lun Sep 18, 2006 2:13 am
Bre nu te ambala din nou ca te driblez gramatical si iti rupi gleznele. Pana una alta invata sa folosesti majuscule cand incepi o propozitie, si dupa aia comenteaza. Si mai usor cu poola ca nu e frumos sa o folosesti fara motiv serios.
Scuze de off-topic.
Scuze de off-topic.
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