Tupac vs Biggie

[zax]

Salut all!! Va rog sa ma scz ptr. cuvintele acestea imi bag pula in biggie si in masa si in curava aia de lil kim sa fie clar. 2Pac hmmm e pre sus si a fost prea sus ptr. biggie.Umflatul ala a stiut doar sa fure piese si sa se faca apreciat pe spatele lui 2pac . I love TuPaC ShaKuR. Da traieste si va aparea la o decernare de premii o sa fie prea adevarat totodata se va cara si lil kim.

[HERETE]

tocmai a aparut pe coloana sonora Tupac : Ressurection o melodie cu biggie - runnin (dying to live). e da bomb.

[Lärägë]

super piesa:
Runnin' (Dying To Live) (featuring the Notorious B.I.G.)
si accesand link-ul de mai jos gasiti clipul:
http://www.rollingstone.com/videos/playvideo.asp?sid=499329

[Aurolacul]

Nu imi prea place stilul lui BIG, singura melodie care mi-a placut cu adevarat a fost Hypnotise.

[Lärägë]

nu zic ca Big a fost un nimic dar sa-l compari cu Tupac e exagerat.
ascultati ce am attachat.

[Rated X]

Multi au zis ca Biggy nu se poate compara cu Pac dar daca stai sa te gandesti The Notorious BIG este pe locul doi dintre cei mai mari MC ai tuturor timpurilor si nu stiu care dar ceva istoric hip hop (apreciat in state) a zis ca daca te poti certa cu cineva ca Biggy ar trebui sa fie pe locul 1 chiar AI PUTEA. Mie imi place mai mult Tupac dar amandoi sunt si vor fi cei mai buni ai tuturor timpurilor.

Bafta!

[Bboy-SBb]

mi-a placut ce au scris multi de mai sus...da asa cum era de asteptat au aparut si fraieri de genul "fuck biggie...biggie sucks....pac nu se poate compara cu el"....si unu care a zis ca biggie a plins de frica la moartea lui pac...idiots...big nu a furat de la pac niciodata...si parerea mea e ca ajungeau mari tovarasi iar...in scurt timp...daca nu mureau...pacat...mie imi plac amandoi...stiluri diferite dar la fel de frumoase...impreuna cu Nas...sunt si vor fi cei mai mari rapperi ever :N

[Pushtiu28]

Normal ca 2pac nu poate fii comparat cu biggie, asta e clar...cu puya niciatat nu poate fii comparat.
Tre sa zic ca a fost tare zax parca...ala care a zis ca traieste si o sa apara nu stiu unde...trezeste-te fratele meu!!!

Si oricum acum dupa tupac, snoop e cel mai mare, asta e parera mea.

[Rated X]

Am observat ca multi se grabesc sa-l traga pe Big in jos dar nu au ascultat decat una sau doua melodii d`ale lui. Asa chiar nu il poti compara pe Tupac cu el... tu stiind aproape toate melodiile lui. Daca mai asculati cel putin jumate din melodiile lui (ca de fapt pe ale lui Pac le stiti aproape pe toate cum am mai zis) atuncea sa veniti sa comentati despre el.

Apropo Bboy-SBb Good post Respect. Cat despre Pushtiu... cred ca nici el nu stie ce a vrut sa zica. In afara de faza cu Snoop.

Bafta

[Rated X]

nu zic ca Big a fost un nimic dar sa-l compari cu Tupac e exagerat.
ascultati ce am attachat. posted by Da Game

Hmmm Interesant. Daca ar fi sa luam un fan de al lui Big care sa faca un VS intre Pac si Biggy credema ca ar mixa vocile si le-ar pune pe negativ in asa fel ca Biggy sa para mai bun. DECI.?

Bafta

[Wanted]

tupac a fost cel mai tare... nu se stie daca o sa ramana cel mai tare... biggie ... a fost degeaba ... oricum ... TUPAC FOR EVER... :M ptr fanii lu` Biggie

[Kronologik]

Mai rapandula .... rahitic ce ejti .. Ce pewla mea te bagi in seama pe un topic "postat" acu 2 ani ...
Scapa-ma de tine cu dumele astea de cacat ....
Te crezi rapper .. dar nu esti ..dute si canta la alta masa. ... din cauza prostilor ca tine se fut in cur fanii intre ei .... ;S
Esti un prost cu dimploma din mai multe motive ....
Mai coclitule ....cand tu vei ajunge ca Biggie ... sau vei urca pe un cacat de scena .... nici atunci nu vei avea dreptul sa critici si sa injuri pe cei care au transformat hip-hop-ul, si nu vei avea dreptul sa injuri pe cei care au sustinut aceasta "calitate" adica fanii mai " fan ce ejti " ...... " Thug life "
Acesti " ingeri " au intrat in istorie ... .. dar in cazul tau mai manelist ce ejti
Auzi daca e sa te bagi in seama si sa mananci cacat asea ca sa fii tu ciumeg .... dute si asculta lautareasca ta si lasma imbracat ....
Si ute asea ma inervez din cauza dezhidratatilor ... ;f

[Kronologik]

Mai rapperule ? Wanted ... nu mai raspunzi ... ? sau care e duma ?
Probabil ca te chinui de vreo 2 zile sa scrii .. o duma of course....
Nici nu jtii ce e aia rap ... biEtch

[Wanted]

2Pac a fost mai productiv... pe cand biggie .. cheltuia toti banii la baute... iar 2Pac isi scotea albume ptr ca stia intr`un fel sau altul ca o sa moara... da oricum... cum a cantat 2Pac n`o sa mai cante nimeni...

[dicky]

eh.............multa lume vb."Kronologik" tuh esti unul dintre cei mai mari assholes i've ever seen in my entire life.nu stii nika de muzica doar vb e de tine.in legatura cu 2 Pac-=-a fost, si va fii (poate nu pentru foarte mult timp) cel mai bun.u don't have any fucking excused for this.resprect......."wanted"....don't let yourself down.

[Rated X]

Ba dicky esti varza ca si engleza ta. Cica esti din SUA ha. Lasa posturile ca esti degeaba.
Si Wanted ba frate cei ca tine dau rapperilor o reputatie proasta. Ba incultule nu mai injura a-n sulea daca habar n-ai despre ce vorbesti. Asa ca nu te mai baga la avioane daca nu te pricepi!!
X-(

[Wanted]

Mai rapperule ? Wanted ... nu mai raspunzi ... ? sau care e duma ?
Probabil ca te chinui de vreo 2 zile sa scrii .. o duma of course....
Nici nu jtii ce e aia rap ... biEtch

ba cacatule cand ascultam eu 2pac tu sugeai de la tactu... nu mai fi prost.. copil de cacat...infect ce ejti... sa`mi bag eu ceva in tine si tanti mata!

[Wanted]

ba cacatule ce stii tu despre 2Pac... ejti degeaba... nu ai ce cauta aici... ejti prea prost.. ca stai aici... poti pleca... nu ne mai deranja... :M ;n :M

[Bboy-SBt]

bah Wanted...las-o mai moale...frate... X-( ca nici tu nu ti-ai tras chilotii odata cu 2 Pac... X-(

[NewDetails]

Cei doi artisti au marcat drumul hip hop-ului de astazi .
2pac -un actor , un rap-idol ptr multi ;struggling for a better world ...
BIG-Frank White ,poate un raper prea intelept pe acea vreme (also Books Instead of Games) ---> http://www.notoriousonline.com
-daca cei doi nu ar fi existat ... poate oamenii nu ar mai fi postat in prezent despre hip hop

O intrebare :Cat hip hop ati ascultat la viata voastra(metric vorbind)? Si cum pot unii sa critice ceva despre care nu stiu nimic?
Trebuie sa mai invatati sa respectati regulile jocului, pe cei din jur adversari ;
Ce sa mai vorbesc de alte genuri de muzica ,alte stiluri ;Cati dintre voi respecta
Jazz-ul ,Funk (G or Broklyn),Soul, ...so on to Rock chiar.

cat despre BIG -nobil si in plus de o cultura remarcabila(numai Talib kweli ,KRS sa Ii semene momentan).
-stilul lui BIG (in prezent reinnoit de Shine) este greu de apreciat ;asa ca e simplu inteleasa optiunea 2pac.

BIG care la inceput a fost un tocilar nu a ajuns niciodata un mare gangster;in plus se presupune ca a fost ucis de o banda pe care o platea regulat +alte ipoteze pe site-ul
amintit sus.

Iar 2Pac dupa afirmatiile unor politisti,detectivi,inclusiv Snoop , a fost ucis de Suge Knight -period- conform urmatoarei teorii:

Suge Knight Killed 2Pac Theory


If you listen closely to the first three seconds of Makaveli 7 Day theory you can hear "Suge shot me". It's hard to say how, by who, and when it was put there. It remains a mystery. When Tupac was sent to prison in 1994 he was planning on spending atleast 3 years there. He hated prison and would have done anything to get himself out of there. Suge had previously asked him to join Deathrow, but he said "he just wasn't ready." The reality of it is that Tupac didn't want to join Deathrow, but changed his mind when faced with prison. Suge said he'd get Tupac out, in exchange Tupac had to do 3 albums for Deathrow. They worked out a contract in which Tupac would receive an advance of $1 million for the first album, in addition to $125,000 for a car, a $120,000 expense allowance for one year, a $250,000 legal fund to be spent as Tupac desired, and David's legal services. Tupac would be paid a royalty of 18 points for sales of the first album, plus a bonus of 1% if it went Gold, and another 1% if it went Platinum. For the second and third, Tupac would be paid an advance of no less than $1 million, or $1 million for every million copies of the prior album which was sold, and he would be paid a royalty of 18% of sales, plus a bonus of l% if it went Gold, and another 1% if it went Platinum. Tupac said at the time he signed the contract "I know I'm selling my soul." But he couldn't stand another few years in prison.
Tupac agreed and Deathrow lawyer David Kenner went about bailing Tupac out of jail. The New York Court of Appeals granted him leave to post bail. $850,000 was raised by Atlantic Records, which was posted in a corporate guarantee. The rest was put up with a $300,000 bail bond and $250,000 in cash from Suge or Interscope. Tupac immediately began and released the album All Eyez on Me, a double CD which covered the first 2 cd's of the contract. While on Deathrow Tupac really seemed to change, influenced by Suge in the mob lifestyle and obviously bitter for the setup in the rape case and being shot 5 times. While on Deathrow he was jacked by Suge Knight repeatedly. He was charged rent on a Wilshire apartment that other Deathrow artists lived in on 9 seperate occasions. He was charged $23,857 for repairs to a porche owned by Steve Cantrock and Suge. Suge and another Death Row representative, who were in California at the time, on the phone told him that he had spent $2 million more than he was entitled to receive. He was charged $115,507 for three pieces of jewelry from B.L. Diamonds, Suge said that the jewelry was a gift to Tupac from Suge, but the bills were never paid. On May 2nd, Tupac was charged $14,500 rent for a house in Malibu which David Kenner lived in. He was then charged $100,000 rent for David Kenner, then $12,000 more. He paid $2700 for Nate Dogg's child support and charged $5,845 for jewelry that Suge bought from XIV Karats Ltd. Sept 3rd he was charged with expenses associated with Michel'le Toussa's Range Rover for $1,453.51. He was also charged over $28,000 for a Chevy Suburban Title. It was taken in Tupac's name initially, but was given to Suge's brother-in-law, Norris Anderson. Tupac was charged $51,425 in connection with the cost of transferring the car to Norris. In August Tupac was charged $2,965, for an American Express bill from Suge's wife. Tupac was charged with expenses that he never agreed to pay which were attendant to the production of albums released by Death Row. He was charged $3,421,842 in video production costs and $663,012 in audio production costs. When Tupac died he had no mutual funds, IRA, or real estate. He owned no stocks or bonds, and had a checking account that had less than $105,000. He also didn't own his Woodland Hills house in San Fernando Valley that he had recently thought he had bought. There was a five-figure life insurance policy, the beneficiary was Sekyiwa, a $61,000 Jaguar that Suge got for Tupac's appearance in a commercial, and a Hummer. His apartment, Rolls-Royce, and Mercedes were listed in Death Row's name.

There's no question Deathrow was run corruptly, and they owed Tupac a lot of money, which is reason enough to kill Tupac. With Tupac's last CD, Makaveli The 7 Day theory, Tupac was poised to leave the row as he'd filled his contract agreement. He was ready to setup Makaveli Records and Euphanasia, a production company from which he wanted to make movies. He was going to be the first artist on the label, One Nation was the second and he had plans to sign Greg Nice and Smooth, another group at quest and Ghetto Starz which is an offshoot of The Outlaws. He also had another company called 24/7, for his music and video work, the scripts he was writing, and the books he would begin as soon as he finished the plans he was doing with Leila to reform the educational system. On August 26th, 12 days before Tupac was shot, he was on the set all day and at the studio all night. On the 27th, Tupac sent Yaasmyn Fula, who managed his business affairs, to the studio to get tapes of what he had done because he wanted to listen to them. Deathrow said no, David Kenner wouldn't allow it. Tupac fired him. Yaasmyn wrote a letter saying that Tupac had finished his last album and he wanted to leave Death Row. Tupac gave Yaasmyn permission to hire another lawyer. On september 7th, Tupac went back to L.A. He decided he wasn't going to go to Las Vegas, but to Atlanta to settle problems with some relatives instead. Suge got him to change his plans because weeks before he'd promised Suge he'd go to the Tyson/Seldon fight with him. He said he didn't want to go, but he'd given Suge his word. At the MGM Grand Tupac was mad because Suge showed up at the last minute. He sat in section 4, row E, seat 2.

After the fight they got into a fight and beat Orlando Anderson, a crip who snatched a deathrow chain from Travis Lane. They went back to Suge's place and got ready to go to club 662 owned by Suge. Tupac had wanted to drive his Hummer, but Suge said that they had things to discuss and got Tupac to ride with him. They drove first in a caravan of cars towards club 662. A white cadillac pulled up beside them and opened fire. Tupac tried to get into the backseat, but Suge pulled him down, and a bullet bounced off of his right hip bone and hit is lung. He was also hit in his right hand and chest. Suge was grazed by a bullet, and suffered a minor head wound. Immediately after the shooting, the Cadillac went south on Koval. Suge made a U-turn from the left lane of Flamingo and sped West toward Las Vegas Blvd., away from the nearest hospital. Yafeu Fula (Khadafi) had been in the car behind the BMW with bodyguards and said he could identify the shooter. He was later found dead in New Jersey with one shot to the back of his head. What reason would Suge have to kill Tupac ? Well Tupac had over 200 master tapes, tapes which would leave Deathrow if Tupac left, if dead they would own rights to the tapes and they wouldn't have to pay the enormous amount of money they owed him. Perhaps Tupac had knowledge of the Row that Suge didn't want him to have if he left. Whoever it was that shot Tupac, didn't seem to want to kill Suge. 13 shots were fired at the car and Suge was grazed by one. Orlando Anderson, who was rumored to have been part of the shooting was a crip, and Suge was a blood. Anderson originally testified that Suge had participated in the beating in the MGM theater, a violation of Suge's parole. He later changed his statement. It was rumored that Anderson was paid off

[dicky]

Ba dicky esti varza ca si engleza ta. Cica esti din SUA ha. Lasa posturile ca esti degeaba.
Si Wanted ba frate cei ca tine dau rapperilor o reputatie proasta. Ba incultule nu mai injura a-n sulea daca habar n-ai despre ce vorbesti. Asa ca nu te mai baga la avioane daca nu te pricepi!!

"Rated X" nici in pula nu ma doare de spusele tale.pula tot se suge fraiere :fuck: . ;o

[Rated X]

Hai sa nu-mi pun mintea cu tine fra ca ar putea iesi urat. Dar fie tre sa existe si PROSTI ca tine care sa-i faca pe ceilalti sa para destepti Asa ca :bleah: dicky Ha numele tau spune tot. :T

Bafta!

[CrAsh0v3r]

uneori ma amuz la greu citind aceste posturi... imi place sa vad cum evoluaza discutiile... cum vad indepartati de la subiectul initial si cum ajungeti sa va injurati care mai de care... cu replici de la gura cortului.

daca sunteti fani tupac atunci nu-i patati memoria !!!
peace out !

[Songoku24u]

Tupac si Notorious au fost sunt si vor fi cei mai mari rapperi din lume.Cearta asta a lor a fost mai mult de ochii publicului.Notorious nu a raspuns la atacurile lui Tupac pentru ca nu a vrut.Asta declara Puffy.Cat despre faptul ca Puffy ar face orice pentru Big.Asa e.Dar pana la omorarea unui om.Sa fim seriosi.Se stia ca Tupac avea de mult probleme cu gastile de cartier de prin zona,cu mafia.Cei doi au fost prieteni si ar fi ramas mult timp asa daca nu erau interesele celor doua case de productii.
R.I.P. Tupac Amaru Shakur&Notorious B.I.G.

[Onu@Pac]

Pacaveli frate.... mai mult de 12 ani nu ai sa-mi bag pula .. Ba omule ei au fost super buni prieteni si mai mult ca sigur lu biggie i-a parut super rau ca a purit 2Pac da la mintea ta de copil ... Si nu mai comparati fara sa il stiti pe Biggie .. Cred ca nu poti tu un copil de 12 ani sau cat ai sa evaluezi un om ca Biggie .. Intelegi !!!?? Mai bine ai asculta si putin Biggie si dupa aia sa ii zici cum i-ai zis k? Biggie a fost si va fi 1 dintre cei mai tari rapperi!!! Asha ca mane .... Nu esti de Hip-Hop

[Smookeu]

n3aGabitz vad ca tu contrazici pe oricine iti sare tzandara si le zici ca nu e asa fara sa aduci argumente in sensul asta...vorbesti de plictiseala(sorry ca ti-o zic da' asa este) si dupa parerea mea 2PAc este deasupra lu' B.I.G fiindca il lua cu el in concerte si chestii d-astea si ii dadea ocazia lu' B.I.G sa arate lumii de ce este in stare,iar acesta din urma in loc sa-i fie recunoscator l-a "injunghiat" pe la spate pe Pac,pentru ca yo,contrat lui n3aGabitz,sunt de parere ca faza cu furatul liricelor lui 2Pac cand acesta era in parnaie,este adevarata....da oricum nu am zis ca nici B.I.G nu avea abilitati,zic doar ca 2Pac a fost deasupra lui si ca fara el ii era mai greu
P.S Parerea Mea

[mc dio]

tupac 4 ever!
thug life

[Mohawk]

la 8 ani distanta de nefericitele evenimente e clar ca skil-urile de mc ale celor doi transced dincolo de beef. pac era mai meditativ, vedea lucrurile in mare, avea vocabular mai complex si aborda subiecte diferite.de aceea e privit acum ca un fel de ganditor universal va bob dylan, bono sau krs one. nu in ultima instanta era mai energic, foarte deschis si avea un flow mai potrivit. biggie in schimb era mai laid-back, mai street wise si un foarte bun story/teller

[matzaa]

2pac oricune si oricum..mult mai multa profunzime..parerea mea

[2peu]

Doua filme despre B.I.G.

Martie 1997... Los Angeles... In zorii unei zile nefaste, la iesirea de pe aleea unei vile impozante, rapper-ul Notorious B.I.G. (foto), avand pe atunci numai 24 de ani este impuscat langa masina lui... La scurt timp dupa cele intamplate, jurnalistul Cheo Hodari Coker incepe o investigatie pe cont propriu, la capatul careia trage propriile concluzii, pe care ulterior le publica in cartea „Unbelievable: The Life, Death and Afterlife of teh Notorius B.I.G.â€Â